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		<title>By: The story so far: I actually like the news business &#8212; Zero Percent Idle</title>
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		<dc:creator>The story so far: I actually like the news business &#8212; Zero Percent Idle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A proposal to rethink the local news product mix for a major metro [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Something did come out of the API summit. Do you see it? &#171; Jason Kristufek&#8217;s We Media blog</title>
		<link>http://timwindsor.com/2008/11/10/saving-newspapers-from-the-scrap-heap-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Something did come out of the API summit. Do you see it? &#171; Jason Kristufek&#8217;s We Media blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] invitation only meeting. You can read thoughts on that which I tend to agree with here, here, here, here, here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Notes from a Teacher - (A few) Thursday squibs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notes from a Teacher - (A few) Thursday squibs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Saving newspapers from the scrap heap: a plan. Lots of very smart people are pondering the future for newspapers and putting out great ideas. Tim Windsor is one of them. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Morning Links: November 13, 2008 &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</title>
		<link>http://timwindsor.com/2008/11/10/saving-newspapers-from-the-scrap-heap-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Morning Links: November 13, 2008 &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I like Tim Windsor&#8217;s plan to revive a struggling daily: a mix of formats, including a free daily tab, a magazine-y weekly, and a family of niche web [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Upending the Business Model - DigitalEdge</title>
		<link>http://timwindsor.com/2008/11/10/saving-newspapers-from-the-scrap-heap-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Upending the Business Model - DigitalEdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Windsor today proposed keeping the print edition, but turning it into a free tab and limiting it to 60 pages. The more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Cubbison</title>
		<link>http://timwindsor.com/2008/11/10/saving-newspapers-from-the-scrap-heap-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cubbison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Produce a first-rate Sunday newspaper with classic, golden-age journalism,  with breaking news handled during the week by a first-rate online site. Then target niches with other print publications, such as the free tab for the lunch crowd at coffee shops and pizza parlors. These should be location- and time-of-day-aware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Produce a first-rate Sunday newspaper with classic, golden-age journalism,  with breaking news handled during the week by a first-rate online site. Then target niches with other print publications, such as the free tab for the lunch crowd at coffee shops and pizza parlors. These should be location- and time-of-day-aware.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Saving newspapers from the scrap heap: a plan</title>
		<link>http://timwindsor.com/2008/11/10/saving-newspapers-from-the-scrap-heap-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Saving newspapers from the scrap heap: a plan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also a family of niche-focused thin sites that meet the unique needs and desires of your markets .  View post             Add your [...]</description>
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		<title>By: timwindsor</title>
		<link>http://timwindsor.com/2008/11/10/saving-newspapers-from-the-scrap-heap-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>timwindsor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great when a local paper gets that kind of accidental Drudge lift from a wire story, but I don&#039;t think you can build a business on it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d still argue that precious resources should not be spent repurposing wire copy. Better to, as Jeff Jarvis says, do what you do best and link to/outsource the rest. Can one local paper ever do as good a job as &lt;a href=&quot;http://Politico.com&quot;&gt;Politico.com&lt;/a&gt; or GlobalPost.com? Why spend time writing yet-another poll-analysis piece in the election when you can link to the outstanding fivethirtyeight.com?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think local news organizations need to become a reliable nexus of news and information, not all of which is created by the local staff. But what is created by the local staff should be largely material that&#039;s not otherwise available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s great when a local paper gets that kind of accidental Drudge lift from a wire story, but I don&#39;t think you can build a business on it.</p>
<p>I&#39;d still argue that precious resources should not be spent repurposing wire copy. Better to, as Jeff Jarvis says, do what you do best and link to/outsource the rest. Can one local paper ever do as good a job as <a href="http://Politico.com">Politico.com</a> or GlobalPost.com? Why spend time writing yet-another poll-analysis piece in the election when you can link to the outstanding fivethirtyeight.com?</p>
<p>I think local news organizations need to become a reliable nexus of news and information, not all of which is created by the local staff. But what is created by the local staff should be largely material that&#39;s not otherwise available.</p>
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		<title>By: timwindsor</title>
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		<dc:creator>timwindsor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Math? Let&#039;s just say it&#039;s not my strong suit....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Math? Let&#39;s just say it&#39;s not my strong suit&#8230;.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: stevegoodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevegoodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point Gus, especially in the context of transitioning. You have to be a realist about the present state of affairs to create a workable plan for where you want to go.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m curious, could you point me to an example story that has driven massive traffic to the Sun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s a good point Gus, especially in the context of transitioning. You have to be a realist about the present state of affairs to create a workable plan for where you want to go.</p>
<p>I&#39;m curious, could you point me to an example story that has driven massive traffic to the Sun?</p>
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		<title>By: Gus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great ideas, tim. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;my only concern, as an aside, is that news org like ours actually stop thinking of our efforts as just &quot;hyperlocal.&quot; the web offers us a chance to broadcast our content to the world. our readers are not just interested in hyperlocal coverage. indeed, when our web content goes boom, it&#039;s usually due to a story that has broad appeal -- and not just for the local masses. if we build a new enterprise based on hyperlocal news, i&#039;m not sure how much value that offers to our advertisers, especially when the educated (and more affluent) reader/consumer is usually far more interested in national and international events than in local ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great ideas, tim. </p>
<p>my only concern, as an aside, is that news org like ours actually stop thinking of our efforts as just &#8220;hyperlocal.&#8221; the web offers us a chance to broadcast our content to the world. our readers are not just interested in hyperlocal coverage. indeed, when our web content goes boom, it&#39;s usually due to a story that has broad appeal &#8212; and not just for the local masses. if we build a new enterprise based on hyperlocal news, i&#39;m not sure how much value that offers to our advertisers, especially when the educated (and more affluent) reader/consumer is usually far more interested in national and international events than in local ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Quix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: (Editorial/Ad mix 50/50 or 45/65)  Should be 45/55, of course.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great ideas, though. Let&#039;s hope the powers that be take them seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: (Editorial/Ad mix 50/50 or 45/65)  Should be 45/55, of course.</p>
<p>Great ideas, though. Let&#39;s hope the powers that be take them seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: stevegoodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevegoodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon my ignorance, but what is the value/goal of an insert over a traditional ad on a page in the magazine? Is it just more exposure for the advertiser&#039;s current sales?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the key is what you&#039;re stressing: being the preeminent local news organization.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s what you need to define your strategy around, because that&#039;s what you are. That&#039;s the value - quality news! Distribution models are just ... distribution models. Don&#039;t let the tail wag the dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon my ignorance, but what is the value/goal of an insert over a traditional ad on a page in the magazine? Is it just more exposure for the advertiser&#39;s current sales?</p>
<p>I think the key is what you&#39;re stressing: being the preeminent local news organization.</p>
<p>That&#39;s what you need to define your strategy around, because that&#39;s what you are. That&#39;s the value &#8211; quality news! Distribution models are just &#8230; distribution models. Don&#39;t let the tail wag the dog.</p>
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